Planning Board June seventeenth two thousand and thirteen and I'm golden to my left
as towards people winds up in my rages Morkel white wine worse hand look down his.
Grace right Grace right or wrong.
Every. Right on. Public comment OK.
Oh election of officers.
So. Case F Y thirteen there seventeen approved was final say twenty in
the case and by Broadway electrical incorporated youngers only by lawyers Article
two Section twenty three twenty high elevation protection district
a. It's what you.
Thought you already voted on. Your son. Would you sign
it yeah you know I mean you could hear him crying in on change every day. All right
. I was not here so should I not sign it.
No unless you want to. Work with the other three members here. Who are married and
coming they were off last Yeah there were only three here when it was first last
meeting of minds work. About this far.
From us you. See right there I don't have any really every no no I mean.
I don't have any. So the only plan that he gave us at the last meeting showed
a six foot access he's been. Chasing. The
solar array. I didn't think that was quite enough I would say to all our
circulation transportation so we made
a fifteen dollars yearly change it was. Done with that I have
a packet but I didn't know it was coming I did I was missing. Pretty.
Good luck to guess that it was the way I would have wanted to touch it again and it
was right there. And thank you for signing with.
The promise of just playing with yours but that was. The ever changing of the
whole thing and. I was like You're right there was I wasn't there but I was hanging
out for it so that it's.
The.
Morning. That. We should feel the stuff.
We already have the feeling. Of my.
Urge like you know when I start going to start tossing it all. Right. I really
don't need the back right John needs to say I will take you are you take. Me I can
tell you one of these plans back to the old one. Right there from what's being
recycled I can just hear what I don't. Hear Yeah I'd rather have them come back in
your reasoning that OK we are sure. OK.
That also has the sections that pertain to. You could.
Write. As the new right. There would be there were three of us here last week
that we're signing. Right.
For you argue no. Regard to my text kind might not know all the rules but at least
we're going to find out going to be. All right. You know
run case for it to Team dash sixteen states then review every cation by Daniel
Kaiser not
a march twenty five military road from the mess of legal surety bond. Purchases
every have their. Little caffeine this. Well.
We are
a few days shy of our. Deadline for filing the site. So we need
to. Make
a decision on how you want to handle the mess. So that we can
borrow. If you recall. We place
conditions for fines for. Two issues.
Don't. Generally were applied to private property. So we
fired. When we can now so as to whether or not. That
was the proper way coaching it was and. As you can see in town councils
comments she certainly she raises some concern about that. In terms of
paying for inserting themselves from what would otherwise be
a seven hour. She does recommend. That the airplane
board consider condition and stop or maintain and provide evidence of liability
insurance and that the developer in those private property owners who may be
impacted could and should encourage to reach
a private cream and that would create unnecessary rights and obligations by and
between private prodding parties without involving training for. Creation or
maintenance expenditure of escrow funds that are to be used for private purposes.
So we did contact the African. And we discussed the issue with the African.
Police are you going to be here and I it's been an e-mail. So he just assume go
forward with it about. A little what's the problem. Yes.
He's concerned about it bothers I recently he's OK with. Providing those
funds. So and the last
page of the packet generally is the lot of that we submit which
is Treasury Treasurer to initiate the bonds that.
We will amend this Maksim will add
a sentence that says the bond will be do at the time of building permit issuance.
For the time frame because the growth management project can't move forward
immediately we normally do not require them to.
Ask of funds in
a toll such time that work will be completed we don't want to be holding on to
their money for over two years it takes up long to get through. So we'll add
that sentence in there that. We didn't do in this crowd.
So. What we need for the plan imports you do is to.
Either just confirm your previous vote and approve pon.
The escrow account agreement. Or.
Have you reconsider your vote for your side plan approval to change your conditions
. To the insurance requirement. Leave the bond
issue. The escrow fund out of it out of this. Condition.
Have we had any instances where we've had. We've taken or we've had
and that not directly but that there have there has been damage. Like how would
that work if if
a neighbor said yes this is Mark damage who's going to actually go out and look at
it one of the last time we had one David was up on Miller Hill that we have that
was for the road and then once it was right once
a permit was approved in the board then the board released it it really was you
know. It was right so what would be part of
this requirement is that we're going to require the application engineer to do
a survey of the existing conditions and
a report now become part of the file they'll do whatever work they need to do to
complete their development. Once they generally where so.
Funds will be returned
a part completion of installation and capping of the foundation. Then they can the
engineer can submit
a report that. No damage occurred and that's generally the time frame in which
you buy this we need to make
a claim and make that claim to you since you're holding the escrow. It
would not be desirable scenario. So presumably you know Jerry and
I curse and at that point upon or cast you can go to release the funds.
So I can we've done this before we've never really experienced damage. And in fact
we have done it before in private property although it's not advised. I think
often lain is private also.
Now we've done it several times for thout one of these we talked about is that if
we when we do it. The developer really doesn't want to deal with
complaints so if something gets damaged in the process they fix. Before it ever
gets to that point. Likelihood is they'll lose more money out of their buying if
they don't just fix it you know like you and me and we've also set up the thing
with
a metal plate so yes. But retaining. You
know what you know this is
a canard that RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT. Right right
may just feel like you feel like me that's right yeah right right and it may feel
like we should yes it's unfair for us to be. Making decisions on private
having something. This may just feels like. China may
actually be
a very nice. Bearer for the asking for something
like Yeah yeah. You know I think that.
You know considering that the you know applicant is asking for us to go here. I
would make
a motion to go ahead with that. And I would second. There. So
that's
a motion gentlemen to. Move forward with your or something dition and to approve
the escrow account Prima. Pending the changes that we can make
a certain thing outside and agreement that he'd like to see. Before we move on.
You know it's like distance so with the with the metal plates that's really. I
don't know why we wouldn't put it in here is how good it is in America if it's in
the original Martian then that power should be repeated here. So well abducting
Sampat it's probably. A little saucer was doing so. Well here that it was used on
those in charge of the. Meeting. It was made
when your baby slid twenty. Minutes so let's say you have four you know.
You know. You can. Oh the devil told us how many cubic feet what was
being said.
He supposed to. Raise awareness and your requests. We're
also. Hearing today and he said they could start getting pretty close to
right. Here that was absolutely.
So but the motion does the same thing but the metal plates you don't notice this is
her younger board discussion if you keep going. To me number two here the security
guy oh OK I just go with the steel biggest of steel plates because at first we were
just saying surety by the way out of the steel plates because he said just put in
the still. It's you're. Right that's right yes that's right.
You know my. Wife is. Very.
Good. I'm good. So we have more so.
You want to have those planes with us.
From here.
When the planes and. We need.
To bring out the.
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Think it is. Right. For the I.Q.
News. Person of officers.
We should stamp this. Great of another. If it's.
Not.
Touch on the spine. That way. So.
When it's election. Like.
That you've done
a wonderful job however I think that it's really good to toot for us to take the
yeah and I would like to nominate Mark has been
a vice chair to take over as chair. For
his second but that also I think that. The paper. How do
you feel about that. It was mentioned. And I guess I am
I don't have it out but it's OK You know I am excited. Because I might have it if I
can help it but I you know we all the empty office are right slim to be happening
to me and I'm sorry but. I mean you know
emotions for Vice on nominee Dorothy is feisty.
All favor. The man and I think.
That in time after this you know at
a Gracie get next get real writing I never really liked hearing you know to be
honest. With. Me.
But I think. Rather take. The case to do to get the feel of
being able to know how to run me. Which I think is
a good thing you know. When you're
a straight running their cases and there's always. That Anyway
maybe mammary is here to lock you know it might not uncommon that the chairmanship
have to go down that you right. There. Right you know so much to
have any other business minutes you're.
Going to have the minutes of thirty in the twenty third in May twenty four for the
if it's already been a change to May twentieth
a pitch to read out to Miller to roadless when he dies like you know I look at this
and see this like there's
a typo on the agenda that I think you know I don't think I'm the last line of any
other anticipated business. I mean come on baby started that on your mind.
And I believe it's I see OK and there's just one. For me down on
the ME twenty and. Thirty make
a living. In. This
chair I. Can actually interrupt your process but hey everybody got the email that
there are five Armenians counsel for my. I guess now it's my fault I apologize for
not getting that posted last week I was required. So I did post the next two
meeting sitting here so I don't have to remind myself. So we are meeting on the
twenty fifth. And on. July sixteenth.
David do we have the minutes from the meeting last week now you actually had to be
done tomorrow Bill to by the midweek so this week because some of the board wasn't
even human before so I am working on the worksheet for. Next week's meaning.
So the change that we did make. Was it Mark. So I was
here and I and John and Mark so we did make
a change very hard there even though you know yes he would but no beginning no. We
may change the parking requirements at which I mean the only change that we've made
. And so we increased the. Minimum
parking our requirements for residential uses. From one space
per unit to one space per unit for studios and one bedrooms and one point five
spaces per unit two or more bedrooms per unit. Which can be at that you round
up. Then applies to all new units. On
a parcel. The electorate on the first and. There are any.
Records any minutes from previous years when I tried to find them there was nothing
there on line. There are. It's hard to find so if you go to the
planing Ford's home page right off to the left of planning boards home page is
a link to the ad hoc Yup I got there. And there should be on the lot to that page
there's
a link to minutes. Nothing comes up it's what comes up unless it just changes but
as of yesterday it would come up no agenda no matter whether you hit it or gender
Yeah that's Usenet but it didn't matter if I hit minutes were originally.
Well I'll have to look since I know why when I posted the last year's
minutes relatively recently and. I know I was able to
successfully navigate Peristyle OK Be it could be corrupted. To make another
a good many people let me know so we can fix it. But it is.
An awkward place well you know I didn't get to be all right. If you can't get it
so you have to know but it's not easy to find. But again they're not standing for
me so I I could. Ask
a temp card just to move all the minutes to your page your opinions page I think
that would probably be cleaner it would be in the I still can't understand why this
particular committee is not listed like the building committee or like an ad hoc
committee they're not standing committee they're now saying town board. So they're
not under any of the ethics or or are they under yet they are still they still
generally comply with hoping Meanwhile they're still. But like Election Day works
morning and I don't believe or maybe they were sworn in and they were scorn and say
. No end of term limits or in
a chair or any of them applies to them this committee to get
a few. They do not get
a free press but you clearly want it now anyway and they remind me mind of not
everybody that.
You know what. They're doing but the other well Tom boards generally are created by
town meeting. Except for ad hoc working groups. That are curious about
minutes are going to see those who. Write it is there proof.
Absolutely. I mean I think it would be
a big improvement to have the minutes under planning because then people can
actually I mean reference it and see what kind of he's been don't have to target
clerks. Just. Make sure it's easy but yeah I agree I think it's
a lot cleaner because. Sometimes I. Have to remind myself where we're no I find
this again and I think that's me out of the general public isn't going to know to
look for an ad hoc I mean if they see that yeah I am going to know it has something
to do by having
a therapist and looking at any of our minutes. They'll know that they are going to
help that's. Cool Where are we with the minutes.
Still to have
a vote for you to vote on May twentieth and then you have to go to your third. We
have to vote and they could vote on that for me is everyone good I was fine I read
a letter today. I do I make
a motion to accept the minutes May twentieth as written all second was amended now
there's an invalid sorry one that when I first read as amended Marian you're the
second just all over.
The other for this one for the team so this way if.
I move to
a period meeting minutes from June third twenty eight team as written. Second.
They were. OK I wasn't tempted.
But the. I'll make
a motion to you and I'll second. And are you OK and thank you.
Thank you I just started saying.